Ep. #80 The Hidden Meanings in Relationships w/ Deborah Lukovich, Ph.D

Deborah Lukovich, Ph.D

Deborah Lukovich holds a PhD in Depth Psychology which focuses on understanding the nature of the unconscious. She is a coach, author, blogger, and podcaster where she offers insights and teachings to help people explore the deeper meaning of life through stories, conversation, and education. 

Deborah is back to discuss her latest framework for understanding relationships from a depth psychology perspective using the 3 P’s: Purpose, Projection, Permanence.

“These three words capture every aspect of relationship between all human beings, but they just play out more dramatically in those of a romantic nature.”

Looking at relationship dynamics and interactions through the lens of purpose, projection, and permanence provide a deep way of understanding what is really going on and together they can work towards a deeper connection, growth, and fulfillment. 

In this episode, Deb and Shane discuss the hidden purpose and deeper meaning of relationships, how projection largely determines the way we relate to each other, and how clinging to the idea of permanence can be destructive. 

“We often don’t discover the deeper purpose of a relationship until after one has ended. Or if we’re lucky, we get a little glimpse when we have the humility to explore a conflict or dissatisfaction rather than avoid it. It can feel mind blowing to discover this ulterior motive that has been hiding from the ego, which thinks it knows exactly why we do what we do.” 

Your Soul is Talking. Are You Listening? 5 Steps to Uncovering Your Hidden Purpose

Has something in your life fallen apart? Do you crave more meaning and purpose? Maybe you’re struggling with divorce, addiction, job loss, or depression, or just curious about a recurring dream or odd coincidences that keep showing up. These are all ways your Soul reveals clues about your deepest desires.

In her book, Your Soul is Talking: Are You Listening? author and coach Deborah Lukovich, wants to get you excited about exploring the most important final frontier—your inner world. The Soul speaks through dreams, symbols, meaningful coincidences, relationships, films, and even depression and injuries. This book teaches you the language of the unconscious required to decode its messages.

Dr. Lukovich writes through the lens of her personal experience of midlife unraveling, and her willingness to share awkward experiences will empower you to explore your own. Conversational instruction is sprinkled with humor as she guides you to learn and apply practical approaches to tapping into the wisdom of your unconscious.

Deborah’s Dose of Depth Podcast:

When the Body Knows Before the Mind | Individuation in Midlife (Behind the scenes of When Sex Meets God: A Midlife Unraveling) Dose of Depth

My memoir is available! Read views and purchase my crazy story here: https://www.amazon.com/When-Sex-Meets-God-Unraveling/dp/B0FY1WSSJZIn Chapters 11–13 of my memoir, When Sex Meets God: A Midlife Unraveling, the story shifts from what I thought was happening to what my body already knew.Long before my conscious mind was ready to face change, my body was offering clues—subtle signals, sensations, and disruptions that pointed toward an impending midlife unraveling. Rather than listening, I resisted. I stayed focused on what I thought should be happening, while something deeper was trying to emerge into consciousness.Although the memoir is written as a personal story, it naturally follows Carl Jung’s theory of individuation. In this video, I bring the Jungian psychology that lives beneath the narrative into the foreground, exploring how the body often becomes the first messenger of the psyche’s need for transformation.This video is for anyone who has:Ignored bodily signals they didn’t understandFelt “off” without knowing whyExperienced physical or emotional cues before a major life shiftWondered how individuation shows up in real life, not just theoryYour body is not betraying you.It may be inviting you into the next phase of becoming.Deborah Lukovich, PhD To learn more about why I wrote this story, the types of readers that will enjoy it, and to subscribe so you have access to a series of videos I'm doing about the depth psychology theories beneath the story, go here: https://www.deborahlukovich.com/whensexmeetsgodSupport the show
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